The following is the most frequently reported, and replayed, passage from the October 17, 2022, deposition of Donald J. Trump in the sexual assault and defamation lawsuit that E. Jean Carroll brought against Mr. Trump:
So the answer to my question is yes, that after you made the statement, you became aware that there’s a photo of you with Ms. Carroll in a receiving line, correct?
Donald Trump (17:17):
At some point I saw there was a photo on a receiving line. Yes.
Let’s mark the photo. What number are we at to? What? Here in front of you a black and white photograph that we’ve marked as DJT 23. And I’m going to ask you, is this the photo that you were just referring to?
Donald Trump (17:41):
I think so, yes.
And do you recall when you first saw this photo?
Donald Trump (17:45):
At some point during the process I saw it. That’s, I guess, her husband, John Johnson, who was an anchor for ABC. Nice guy. I thought, I mean, I don’t know him, but I thought he was pretty good at what he did. I don’t even know who the woman, let’s see. I don’t know who. It’s Marla.
You’re saying Marla’s in this photo?
Donald Trump (18:14):
That’s Marla. Yeah. That’s my wife.
Which woman are you pointing to?
Donald Trump (18:19):
Speaker 2 (18:22):
The person you just pointed to is [inaudible 00:18:23] Carroll.
Donald Trump (18:23):
Who is that? Who is this?
Speaker 2 (18:24):
Which furthers the point anyway.
And the woman on the right is your then wife Ivana?
Donald Trump (18:28):
I don’t know.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
Donald Trump (18:29):
If this was the picture, I assume that’s John Johnson. Is that . . .
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Donald Trump (18:33):
. . . Carroll? Because it’s very blurry.
If you followed the first trial between Carroll and Trump, you know that Trump’s mistaken identification of a photograph of Carroll as that of his ex-wife Marla Maples provided a rebuttal at trial to Trump’s claim that Carroll was “not his type.” This passage will most certainly be a part of any future trial(s) between these parties as well.
For those concerned with proper deposition practice, however, this passage raises a different question: Why is “Speaker 2” (Trump defense lawyer Alina Habba) answering the question for her client?