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    Listen and subscribe for interviews with practicing national security attorneys who offer updates and analysis on the hottest topics in the field and career advice for those looking to break in.

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    National Security News Roundup with Harvey Rishikof

    Episode 108 | January 23, 2020 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Harvey Rishikof is a Senior Counselor to the ABA Standing Committee on Law and National Security and a Visiting Professor of Law at Temple University Beasley School of Law.

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    A Discussion with NSA General Counsel Glenn Gerstell

    Episode 107 | January 16, 2020 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Glenn Gerstell is the General Counsel of the National Security Agency.

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    Iran and the Law of Armed Conflict with Bill Banks and John Bellinger

    Episode 106 | January 9, 2020 (Subscribe | Stream)

    John Bellinger III is a partner at Arnold & Porter and the former Legal Adivser to the National Security Council and the U.S. Department of State.

    William Banks is a Professor of Law Emeritus at the Syracuse University College of Law, the Founding Director of the Institute for National Security and Counterterrorism (now the Syracuse University Institute for Security Policy and Law), and the author of multiple legal textbooks on constitutional and national security law.

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    Impeachment, National Security, and the Law with Stewart Baker and Jamil Jaffer

    Episode 105 | December 19, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Stewart Baker is a partner at Steptoe & Johnson, and Jamil Jaffer is the Founder and Executive Director of the National Security Institute at George Mason University School of Law.

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    5G and National Security LIVE with Craig Silliman

    Episode 104| December 12, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Craig Silliman is Executive Vice President for Public Policy and General Counsel at Verizon. He has served in senior roles at Verizon for years, and previously worked at the law firm of Collier, Shannon, Rill & Scott and was taught telecommunications regulation at American University.

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    Disinformation and Deepfakes with Matthew Ferraro

    Episode 103| December 5, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Matthew Ferraro is a Senior Associate at WilmerHale, he previously served as an intelligence officer at ODNI and the CIA and worked in the US Department of State's Office of the Legal Advisor.

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    The View from the Top with the ABA President

    Episode 102| November 21, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Judy Perry Martinez is the President of the American Bar Association.

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    The Future of National Security Law with Steve Vladeck and Bobby Chesney

    Episode 101| November 12, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Steve Vladeck is the A Dalton Cross Professor in Law at the University of Texas School of Law and Robert Chesney is the Director of the Robert S. Strauss Center for International Security and Law and the Associate Dean for Academic Affairs at the University of Texas School of Law. They co-host the National Security Law Podcast.

    This episode was recorded live at the 29th Annual Review of the Field of National Security Law CLE Conference.

     

    Rebroadcast: So you want a job as a CIA Lawyer

    Episode 100| October 31, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Carol, Richard, and Craig are members of the Central Intelligence Agency’s Office of General Counsel

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    National Security News Roundup with Jamil Jaffer

    Episode 99 | October 24, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Jamil Jaffer is the Founder and Executive Director of the National Security Institute at George Mason University and an Assistant Professor of Law and Director of the National Security Law & Policy Program at the Antonin Scalia Law School. He served as an Associate Counsel to the President under George W. Bush and as a senior staffer on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence

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    Whistleblowers and the Law Part II: Classified Information with Bob Litt

    Episode 98 | October 17, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Robert "Bob" Litt is of counsel at Morrison & Foerster. He is the former General Counsel at the Office of the Director of National Intelligence.

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    Sharing Nuclear Secrets Without Safeguards with Mieke Eoyang and Jackie Kempfer

    Episode 97 | October 10, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Mieke Eoyang is the Vice President for Third Way’s National Security Program. She previously served as Chief of Staff to Representative Anna Eshoo (D-CA),  Defense Policy Advisor to Senator Kennedy, the Subcommittee Staff Director on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, and a Professional Staff Member on the House Armed Services Committee. 

    Jackie Kempfer is a Policy Advisor for Third Way’s Climate and Energy Program. She previously worked on nuclear security issues with the Stimson Center

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    Whistleblowers and the Law with Brad Moss

    Episode 96 | October 3, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Bradley Moss is a Partner at the Law Offices of Mark Zaid, PC

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    The Geospatial-Intelligence Revolution is Underway with Thomas Monheim

    Episode 95 | September 26, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Thomas Monheim is the General Counsel of the National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency.

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    Will the Dollar be Disarmed? with Brian Egan

    Episode 94 | September 19, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Brian Egan is a Partner at Steptoe & Johnson. He served as the Legal Adviser to the U.S. State Department and as Legal Advisor to the White House National Security Council.

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    Elections are Critical Infrastructure Part I and Part II with Megan Stifel and Andrew Borene

    Episode 92 | September 5, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Episode 93 | September 12, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Andrew Borene is a former member of the Standing Committee on Law and National Security Advisory Committee. Megan Stifel is the founder of Silicon Harbor Consultants as well as a non-resident fellow at the Atlantic Council. She previously served in the Department of Justice as Director for Cyber Policy in the National Security Division, and as counsel in the Computer Crime and Intellectual Property Section of the Criminal Division.

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    Law Firm Cybersecurity Requirements LIVE at the ABA Annual Meeting

    Episode 91 | August 29, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Jill Rhodes is Vice President & CISO at Option Care, a multibillion-dollar healthcare company. She previously served as a Foreign Service Officer as US AID and worked in the Office of the Director of National Intelligence in roles including the deputy chief of staff for the ODNI and the assistant deputy director of national intelligence for education and training.

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    Where are the Cyber Gaps? LIVE Part I and Part II at the ABA Annual Meeting

    Episode 89 | August 15, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Episode 90 | August 22, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Gilman Louie is a Partner at Alsop Louie Partners, and the founder and former CEO of In-Q-Tel. Harvey Rishikof is the  the former chair of the Standing Committe on Law and National Security Advisory Committee. Herb Lin is a Senior Research Scholar at the Center for International Security and Cooperation and a Fellow in Cyber Policy and Security at the Hoover Institution. Dina Temple-Raston is a Special Correspondent at NPR.

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    Rebroadcast: The Case for Federal Laws on Domestic Terrorism with Mary McCord

    Episode 88 | August 8, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Mary McCord is a visiting professor at Georgetown University Law Center and a Senior Litigator from Practice at the school's Institute for Constitutional Advocacy and Protection. She served as the Acting Assistant Attorney General for National Security and the Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General for the National Security Division at the U.S. Department of Justice.

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    Following Tech Supply Chains with Jeff Ferry

    Episode 87 | August 1, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Jeff Ferry is the Chief Economist at the Coalition for a Prosperous America

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    National Security News Roundup with Angela Hinton

    Episode 86 | July 25, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Angela Hinton is the former Chief Counsel, City of Atlanta Department of Law.

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    Climate Security and the Changing Landscape of Threat Part I and Part II with Mark Nevitt

    Episode 84 | July 11, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Episode 85 | July 18, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Mark Nevitt is a Sharswood Fellow teaching at the University of Pennsylvania Law School. He previosuly served as a Naval Aviator and Judge Advocate General where he was posted as a Department of Defense Regional Environmental Counsel in Norfolk, VA.

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    So you want a job as a CIA lawyer

    Episode 83 | June 27, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Carol, Richard, and Craig are members of the Central Intelligence Agency’s Office of General Counsel.

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    OFAC, Sanctions, and National Security Law LIVE with Andrea Gacki

    Episode 82 | June 20, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Andrea Gacki is the Director of the Office of Foreign Assets Control at the Department of the Treasury

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    Can We Protect National Security if Virtual Currency Use Expands? with Michael Sachs, Yaya Fanusie, and Adam Zarazinski

    Episode 81 | June 13, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Yaya Fanusie is an Adjunct Fellow at the Foundation for Defense of Democracies' Center on Economic and Financial Power. He served as an economic and counterterrorism analyst at the CIA.

    Michael Sachs is the Executive Assistant District Attorney and Chief of the Investigation Division for the New York County District Attorney’s Office.

    Adam Zarazinski is the CEO of Inca Digital Securities . He previously served as a Judge Advocate General in the U.S. Air Force

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    Mapping out China's Belt and Road with Jonathan Hillman

    Episode 80 | June 6, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Jonathan Hillman is the Senior Fellow with the Simon Chair in Political Economy, and the Director of the Reconnecting Asia Project at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. He is a former policy adviser at the Office of the U.S. Trade Representative.

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    Understanding the Threat Landscape LIVE

    Episode 79 | May 30, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Lara Flint is the Director of the Governance Program at Democracy Fund, Seth Jones is the Director of the Transnational Threats Project and Senior Adviser at the International Security Program at CSIS, Sujit Raman is an Associate Deputy Attorney General in the U.S. Department of Justice, Suzanne Spaulding is a Senior Adviser at the Homeland Security and International Security Programs at CSI,  and  Harvey Rishikof is the Chair of the ABA Standing Committee on Law and National Security Advisory Committee

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    Supply Chain Security is National Security LIVE

    Episode 78 | May 23, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Stephen Preston is a Partner at WilmerHale, Joyce Corell is the Assistant Director of the Supply Chain and Cyber Directorate at the National Counterintelligence and Security Center,
    and  Harvey Rishikof is the Chair of the ABA Standing Committee on Law and National Security Advisory Committee

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    Ten Years of Intelligence Community Law with Andrew Borene and Harvey Rishikof

    Episode 77 | May 16, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)


    Andrew Borene is the Senior Director of Symantec's Federal National Security Group, and  Harvey Rishikof is the Chair of the Aba Standing Committee on Law and National Security Advisory Committee

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    What have we learned from the Mueller Report? Part I and Part II

    Episode 75 | May 2, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Episode 76 | May 9, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Stewart Baker is a partner at Steptoe & Johnson, Jamil Jaffer is the founder of the National Security Institute at George Mason University, Harvey Rishikof is the Chair of the Aba Standing Committee on Law and National Security Advisory Committee, and Mark Zaid is the managing partner of The Law Offices of Mark Zaid.

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    Social Media: 2020 LIVE at the Annual Conference

    Episode 74 | April 25, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Professor Laura Donohue is the Director of the Center on National Security and the Law at Georgetown University Law Center, Nancy Fortenberry is Associate General Counsel at the Central Intelligence Agency, Rachel Levinson-Waldman is Senior Counsel at the Brennan Center, Peter Singer is a Strategist and Senior Fellow at New America, Colin Stretch is Vice President and General Counsel at Facebook

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    Domestic Terror in DC: The Hanafi Siege Part I and Part II with Mark Tuohey and Pat Collins

    Episode 72 | April 11, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Episode 73 | April 18, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Mark Tuohey is of counsel at BakerHostetler. He served as Director of the Mayor of Washington, D.C.’s Office of Legal Counsel was an Assistant U.S. Attorney during the 1977 Hanafi Siege.

    Pat Collins is a reporter at NBC4 Washington and covered the news in Washington DC at the Washington Daily News, Channel 9 WTOP, and WJLA. He was a reporter at Channel 9 during the 1977 siege.

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    What Goes Into Publishing a Classified Report? with Jamil Jaffer

    Episode 71 | April 4, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Jamil Jaffer is the founder of the National Security Institute at George Mason University, and an Assistant Professor of Law and Director of the National Security Law & Policy Program at the Antonin Scalia Law School. He has served as an Associate Counsel to President Bush and as Counsel to the Assistant Attorney General for National Security.

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    Strengthening American Democracy Through Service LIVE with Avril Haines

    Episode 70 | March 28, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Avril Haines is a member of the National Commission on Military, National and Public Service, a Senior Research Scholar at Columbia University World Projectst, and the former Deputy National Security Adviser.

    Paul Lekas is the General Counsel and Chief Legal Officer of the Commission and former  Deputy General Counsel for Legal Counsel at the U.S. Dpearmtent of Defense.

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    Fighting Foreign Influence through FARA Part II with Bradley Hart and Katie Kedian

    Episode 69 | March 21, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Dr. Bradley Hart is an Assistant Professor at California State University, Fresno. He completed his PhD at Churchill College, Cambridge University and is the author or co-author of three books, the latest being “Hitler’s American Friends.”

    Kathleen Kedian is a Senior Counsel at Raytheon Company and a Professorial Lecturer in Law at George Washington University Law School. She served as Principal Deputy Chief of the Counterintelligence and Export Control Section and Chief of the Counterespionage Section of the US Department of Justice National Security Division. 

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    Fighting Foreign Influence through FARA Part I with Bradley Hart and Katie Kedian

    Episode 68 | March 14, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Dr. Bradley Hart is an Assistant Professor at California State University, Fresno. He completed his PhD at Churchill College, Cambridge University and is the author or co-author of three books, the latest being “Hitler’s American Friends.”

    Kathleen Kedian is a Senior Counsel at Raytheon Company and a Professorial Lecturer in Law at George Washington University Law School. She served as Principal Deputy Chief of the Counterintelligence and Export Control Section and Chief of the Counterespionage Section of the US Department of Justice National Security Division. 

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    Future Intelligence Strategy LIVE with Corin Stone

    Episode 67 | March 7, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Corin Stone is the Deputy Director of National Intelligence for Strategy & Engagement at ODNI. She also served as the Executive Director at the National Security Agency.

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    Foreign Threats to Democracy LIVE at the Annual Conference with Suzanne Spaulding 

    Episode 66 | February 28, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Suzanne Spaulding is a Senior Adviser in the Homeland Security and International Security Programs at the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS). She served as Undersecretary for the National Protection and Programs Directorate (now the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Agency) at the Department of Homeland Security.

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    Conversation with Michael Chertoff LIVE at the Annual Conference

    Episode 65 | February 21, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Michael Chertoff is the Executive Chairman of the Chertoff Group and served as the Secretary of the U.S Department of Homeland Security from 2005 to 2009.

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    Surveillance and the Fourth Amendment with Bob Litt

    Episode 64 | February 14, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Robert "Bob" Litt is of counsel at Morrison & Foerster and is also an Adjunct Research Scholar in Columbia Law School's National Security Law Program. He previously served as the General Counsel of the Office of the Director of National Intelligence

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    Bringing Suit Against Syria with Mark Zaid

    Episode 63 | February 7, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Mark Zaid is the Managing Parter of the Law Offices of Mark Zaid. He is also the Executive Director and founder of the James Madison Project

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    Social Media and National Security Part II with Peter Singer and Rachel Levinson-Waldman

    Episode 62 | January 31, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Peter Singer is a strategist and Senior Fellow at New America. He was Director of the Center for 21st Century Security at the Brookings Institution and has written six books on different aspects of modern warfare, including LikeWar.

    Rachel Levinson-Waldman is Senior Counsel at the Brennan Center’s Liberty and National Security Program and previously worked on First Amendment and academic freedom as counsel to the American Association of University Professors.

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    Declaring a National Emergency with Jamil Jaffer and Paul Rosenzweig 

    Episode 61 | January 24, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Jamil Jaffer is the founder of the National Security Institute at George Mason University. He previously served as Associate White House Counsel to President George W. Bush, Senior Counsel to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, and Chief Counsel and Senior Advisor to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

    Paul Rosenzweig is a Senior Fellow at the R Street Institute, a Lawfare Contributor, a Senior Advisor at the Chertoff Group and a Professorial Lecturer at the George Washington University Law School. He served as Deputy Assistant Secreatary for Policy at the Department of Homeland Security. 

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    Social Media and National Security Part I with Peter Singer and Rachel Levinson-Waldman

    Episode 60 | January 17, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Peter Singer is a strategist and Senior Fellow at New America. He was Director of the Center for 21st Century Security at the Brookings Institution and has written six books on different aspects of modern warfare, including LikeWar.

    Rachel Levinson-Waldman is Senior Counsel at the Brennan Center’s Liberty and National Security Program and previously worked on First Amendment and academic freedom as counsel to the American Association of University Professors.

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    The rule of law and technical innovations with Luke Dembosky

    Episode 59 | January 10, 2019 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Luke Dembosky is a partner at Debevoise & Plimpton and co-chair of the firm's Cybersecurity & Data Privacy practice. He previously served as Deputy Assistant Attorney General for National Security at the Department of Justice. He was also the Deputy Chief for Litigation in the Computer Crime and Intellectual Property Section and spend two years at the U.S. Embassy in Moscow.

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    Third Party Consent in the Digital Age with Jamil Jaffer

    Episode 58 | December 20, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Jamil Jaffer is the founder of the National Security Institute at George Mason University and is a regular on the Steptoe Cyberlaw Podcast. He previously served as Associate White House Counsel to President George W. Bush, Senior Counsel to the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, and Chief Counsel and Senior Advisor to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee

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    Privacy and National Security in 2018 LIVE with Glenn Gerstell

    Episode 57 | December 13, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Glenn Gerstell is the General Counsel at the National Security Agency.  He previously served as managing partner of the Milbank, Tweed, Hadley & McCloy LLP offices in Washington, DC.

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    Dawn of the Code War LIVE with John Carlin

    Episode 56 | December 6, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    John Carlin is a partner at Morrison & Foerster. He served Assistant Attorney General for the U.S. Department of Justice’s (DOJ) National Security Division (NSD) and as Chief of Staff to then-FBI Director Robert S. Mueller.

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    Supplying and Supporting US Troops with Diana Banks

    Episode 55 | November 29, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Diana Banks is Senior Counsel at the American Bankers Association. She previously served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Force Education and Training in the Office of the Under Secretary for Defense for Personnel and Readiness and as a Special Assistant to the Acting Under Secretary of Defense for Personnel and Readiness in the Department of Defense.

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    Foreign influence campaigns from Nazis to FARA Part I and Part II with Bradley Hart

    Episode 53 | November 8, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream) and Episode 54 | November 15, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Bradley W. Hart is an assistant professor at California State University, Fresno. He completed his PhD at Churchill College, Cambridge University, and is the author or co-author of three books. His latest book is Hitler's American Friends: The Third Reich's Supporters in the United States (2018). 

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    Sleepless in Cyberspace: Navigating the Threat Landscape LIVE

    Episode 52 | October 18, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    This event features speakers Robert Litt, of counsel at Morrison & Foerster and former General Counsel of ODNI; Paul Rosenzweig, founder of Red Branch Consulting and Senior Fellow at the R Street Institute; Lucy Thomson founder of Livingston PLLC; and moderated by Josh Snavely the Dean of the Langston University School of Business

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    The Reliability and Risks of Blockchain Part I and Part II with Steve Bunnell

    Episode 50 | October 4, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream) and Episode 51 | October 11, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Steve Bunnell is a partner at O'Melveny & Meyers. He served as the General Counsel of the Department of Homeland Security and as Chief of the Criminal Division at the US Attorney’s Office in Washington, DC.

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    Cybersecurity Wake Up Call LIVE at the Annual Meeting

    Episode 49 | September 27, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Live from a panel at the ABA Annual Meeting "Cybersecurity Wake Up Call: The Business You Save May Be Your Own"

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    Predicting the Future of security with National Security Law Today

    Episode 48 | September 20, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    The moderators reviewed episodes on FARA, CFIUS, security clearances and space law that Naitonal Seuciry Law Today recorded over the last year to prepare for the upcoming 28th Annual Review of the Field of National Security Law Conference in November.

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    Attacks on Our Institutions of Democracy LIVE at the ABA Annual Meeting

    Episode 47 | September 13, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    The panel speakers are Judge Margaret Sweeney, United States Court of Federal Claims; Suzanne Spaulding, Senior Advisor at CSIS, and Elizabeth Rindskopf Parker, former Exectuive Director of the State Bar of California. Moderated by Harvey Rishikof, Chair of the ABA Standing Committee on Law and National Security Advisory Committee

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    Touring the Arctic with Lindsay Rodman

    Episode 46 | September 6, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Lindsay Rodman is the Council on Foreign Relations International Affairs Fellow at the University of Ottawa Centre for International Policy Studies. She was an associate at Arnold & Porter before joining the US Marine Corps, where she served as Director for Defense Policy and Strategy at the National Security Council. She is currently a major in the Marine Corps Reserves

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    How do we get to sustainable cybersecurity? Part I and Part II with Megan Stifel

    Episode 44 | August 23, 2018 and Episode 45 | August 30, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream Part 1 | Stream Part 2)

    Megan Stifel is the Cybersecurity Policy Director at Public Knowledge and the founder of Silicon Harbor Consultants as well as a non-resident fellow at the Atlantic Council. She previously served in the Department of Justice as Director for Cyber Policy in the National Security Division, and as counsel in the Computer Crime and Intellectual Property Section of the Criminal Division.

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    Human Rights are a National Security Concern Part I and Part II with Elisa Massimino

    Episode 42 | August 9, 2018 and Episode 43 | August 16, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream Part 1 | Stream Part 2 )

    Elisa Massimino is a Senior Fellow at the Carr Center for Human Rights Policy. She previously served as the President and CEO of Human Rights First.


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    President Carter: The White House Years LIVE with Ambassador Stuart Eizenstat

    Episode 41 | August 2, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Ambassador Stuart Eizenstat is Senior Counsel at Covington & Burling and served as chief White House domestic policy adviser to President Jimmy Carter and as Ambassador to the European Union.

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    Protecting Democratic Institutions Part I and Part II with Suzanne Spaulding and Elizabeth Rindskopf Parker

    Episode 39 | July 19, 2018 and Episode 40 | July 26, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream Part 1 | Stream Part 2)

    Suzanne Spaulding is a Senior Fellow at CSIS and the former Undersecretary of the National Protection and Programs Directorate (NPPD) at the Department of Homeland Security.

    Elizabeth Rindskopf Parker is the Dean Emerita of Pacific McGeorge Law School and a trustee at the MITRE corporation. She is the former Executive Director of the State Bar of California and General Counsel of the Central Intelligence Agency and the National Security Agency.

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    Becoming a National Security Entrepreneur with Francis Hoang

    Episode 38 | July 12, 2018  (Subscribe | Stream)

    Francis Hoang is a partner at FH+H and Chief Strategy Officer at MAG Aerospace. He previously served as an Assistant US Attorney in the Eastern District of Virginia, as Associate Counsel to the President of the United States and as Executive Officer of a U.S. Army Special Forces Company in Afghanistan.

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    The Internet of Things and Supply Chains LIVE with Joyce Corell

    Episode 37 | July 5, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Joyce Corell is the Assistant Director, Supply Chain and Cyber Directorate, National Counterintelligence and Security Center.

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    From National Security to the ABA with Jack Rives

    Episode 36 | June 28, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Jack Rives is the Executive Director of the American Bar Association. He served in the US Air Force for 33 years as a military attorney, and was The Judge Advocate General (TJAG) of the Air Force before retiring.

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    What is US cybersecurity policy without a cyber coordinator? with Paul Rosenzweig

    Episode 35 | June 21, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Paul Rosenzweig is a Senior Fellow at the R Street Institute, a Lawfare Contributor, a Senior Advisor at the Chertoff Group and a Professorial Lecturer at the George Washington University Law School. He served as Deputy Assistant Secreatary for Policy at the Department of Homeland Security. 

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    The Case for Federal Laws on Domestic Terrorism with Mary McCord

    Episode 34 | June 14, 2018 (Subscribe |Stream)

    Mary McCord is a visiting professor at Georgetown University Law Center and a Senior Litigator from Practice at the school's Institute for Constitutional Advocacy and Protection. She served as the Acting Assistant Attorney General for National Security and the Principal Deputy Assistant Attorney General for the National Security Division at the U.S. Department of Justice.

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    An Overview of Government Oversight Part I and Part II with Mieke Eoyang

    Episode 32 | May 31, 2018 and Episode 33 | June 7, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream Part I | Stream Part II)

    Mieke Eoyang is the Vice President for National Security Program at Third Way. She has also worked as the Subcommittee Staff Director on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence and a Professional Staff Member on the House Armed Services Committee.

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    Threats, Norms and Cyber Mercenaries with Tim Maurer

    Episode 31 | May 24, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Tim Maurer is the co-director of the Cyber Policy Initiative and a fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. He has also worked with the Global Commission on the Stability of Cyberspace and the Global Commission on Internet Governance. His book on state power and proxy actors in cyberspace is Cyber Mercenaries

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    The Future of Digital Intelligence LIVE at the Lawyer Jurga

    Episode 30 | May 17, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    The panel features moderator Jude James Baker, Chair of the Standing Committee on Law and National Security, and panelists Peter Weinberger of Google, Chris Inglis of Paladin Capital Group and former Deputy Director of the Naitonal Security Agency, and W. Renn Gade of the Defense Intelligence Agency.

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    Company Man Part I and Part II with John Rizzo 

    Episode 28 | May 3, 2018 and Episode 29 | May 10, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream Part I | Stream Part II)

    John Rizzo is senior counsel at Steptoe & Johnson, LLP and a visiting fellow at the Hoover Center. Prior to joining the private sector he served in the Office of the General Counsel in the CIA for 34 years, including as Chief Legal Officer. His memoir is called Company Man: Thirty Years of Controversy and Crisis at the CIA

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    The Use of Force in North Korea: The Legal Process

    Episode 27 | April 26, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    The panel features moderator Judge James E. Baker, Chair of the Standing Committee on Law and National Security, and panelists Brian Egan of Steptoe & Johnson, former State Department Legal Adviser(and Episode 2) and BG Rich Gross (USA, ret.) of Janus Global Operations and former legal counsel to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

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    Watch the Skies with Kevin Pomfret 

    Episode 26 | April 19, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream )

    Kevin Pomfret is a partner at Williams Mullen. He is the founder and executive director of the Centre for Spatial Law and Policy, a member of the National Geospatial Advisory Committee and a fomer satellite image analyst.

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    Artificial Intelligence LIVE at the Annual Conference

    Episode 25 | April 12, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    The panel features moderator Lala Qadir of Covington & Burling, and panelists Gregory Akers of Cisco Security and Trust Organization, Michael Page of OpenAI (and Episode 23), LtCol Alan Schuller of the Naval War College (and Episode 19), and David Vladeck of Georgetown University.

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    Brains and Bombers with Dina Temple-Raston

    Episode 24 | April 5, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Dina Temple-Raston is a counterterrorism correspondent at NPR, and the author of four books including A Death in Texas and The Jihad Next Door. Her new podcast on brain development What Were You Thinking is available on Apple Podcast and on Audible at audible.com/adolescentbrain.

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    Looping Lawyers in on AI with Michael Page and the Steptoe Cyberlaw Cast

    Episode 23 | March 29, 2018  (Subscribe | Stream )

    Michael Page is the Policy and Ethics Advisor at OpenAI, where he focuses on the long term political and ethical implications of advanced AI systems. He was previously with Williams & Connelly LLP and the Public Citizen Litigation Group.

    Stewart Baker is a partner at Steptoe & Johnson, the former chair of the ABA Standing Committee on Law and National Security, and the host of the Steptoe Cyberlaw cast.

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    So What is the Standing Committee? Minisode with the Moderators

    Episode 22 | March 15, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    The Standing Committee on Law and National Security is the oldest committee in the ABA. It has a sustained committment to educating the Bar and the public on national security and rule of law issues.

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    Security's Final Frontier with Dr. Henry Hertzfeld

    Episode 21 | March 8, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Dr. Henry Hertzfeld is a Professor at the George Washington Univeristy's Elliott School of International Affairs in the Space Policy Institute and at the GWU Law school. He served as an economic and policy analyst as NASA and the National Science Foundation.

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    Cybersecurity: The Intersection of Law, Policy and Technology with Melissa Hathaway

    Episode 20 | March 1, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Melissa Hathaway is the president of Hathaway Global Strategies and a cybersecurity senior advisor at the Harvard Kennedy School, working on MIT–Harvard Project on Technology, Security, and Conflict in the Cyber Age (Project Minerva). She led the Cyberspace Policy Review for President Barack Obama and the Comprehensive National Cybersecurity Initiative (CNCI) for President George W. Bush.

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    Are we ready for Autonomous Weapons? with Alan Schuller

    Episode 19 | February 22, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Lieutenant Colonel Schuller (USMC) is Associate Director of the Stockton Center for the Study of International Law at the U.S. Naval War College, where his research is focused on autonomy in weapon systems. LtCol Schuller is a Fellow with the Georgetown Center on National Security and the Law. He served as an artillery officer before becoming a judge advocate. 

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    The Criticality of Communications with Craig Silliman

    Episode 18 | February 15, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Craig Silliman is Executive Vice President for Public Policy and General Counsel at Verizon. He has served in senior roles at Verizon for years, and previously worked at the law firm of Collier, Shannon, Rill & Scott and was taught telecommunications regulation at American University.

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    The Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act LIVE at the Annual Conference

    Episode 17 | February 8, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    The panel features moderator Robert Litt of Morrison & Foerster and panelists Alexander Joel of the Office of Civil Liberties, Privacy and Transparency in ODNI, Laura Donohue of Georgetown Law, Elizabeth (Liza) Goitein of the Brennan Center for Justice, Susan Hennessey of Lawfare and Jamil Jaffer of GMU Antonin Scalia Law School.

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    Answering Tough Questions with Ken Wainstein

    Episode 16 | February 1, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Ken Wainstein is a partner at Davis Polk. He served at the president's Homeland Security Advisor, as Assistant Attorney General for National Security in the U.S. Department of Justice, and as General Counsel of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.

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    Touring the Arctic with Lindsay Rodman

    Episode 15 | January 15, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Lindsay Rodman is the Council on Foreign Relations International Affairs Fellow at the University of Ottawa Centre for International Policy Studies. She was an associate at Arnold & Porter before joining the US Marine Corps, where she served as Director for Defense Policy and Strategy at the National Security Council. She is currently a major in the Marine Corps Reserves

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    CFIUS 101: Foreign Control and US Oversight with David Fagan

    Episode 14 | January 18, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    David Fagan is a partner at Covington & Burling and co-chair of the firm's cross border investment and national security practice. He previously served as a CIA analyst before joining Covington and becoming a Chambers rated lawyer and the American Lawyer Dealmaker of the Year for 2016.

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    Defend your Data with Jill Rhodes

    Episode 13 | January 11, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Jill Rhodes is Vice President & CISO at Option Care, a multibillion-dollar healthcare company. She previously served as a Foreign Service Officer as US AID and worked in the Office of the Director of National Intelligence in roles including the deputy chief of staff for the ODNI and the assistant deputy director of national intelligence for education and training.

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    Trials, Tribunals and Tribulations with Xander Meise

    Episode 12 | January 4, 2018 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Alexandra (Xander) Meise is a partner at Mitchell, Silberberg & Knupp where she works in international disputes on treaties, access to natural resources and conflicts whether commercial or governmental. She also teaches International Human Rights Law at the Georgetown University Law Center.

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    Bringing Terrorism to Trial Part I and Part II with Steven Pelak

    Episode 10 | December 21, 2017 and Episode 11 | December 28, 2017 (Subscribe | Stream Part I | Stream Part II)

    Steven Pelak is a parter at Holland & Hart, and he served as an Assistant U.S. Attorney in Washington D.C. for 18 years and in the Justice Department on economic sanction and export control enforcement.

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    Thieves from Abroad: The threat of intellectual property theft with Adam Hickey and David Laufman

    Episode 9 | December 14, 2017 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Adam Hickey is the Deputy Assistant Attorney General (DAAG) for National Asset Protection in the National Security Division U.S. Department of Justice where he combats national security threats from cybercrime and economic espionage. David Laufman is the chief of the Counterintelligence and Export Control Section as NSD where he investigates and prosecutes economic espionage, cybercrime, export control and sanctions violations.

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    Dual Use and 3D Printers with Chris Timura 

    Episode 8 | November 30, 2017 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Christopher Timura is of counsel at Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher where he works in national security, trade and foreign policy as well as corporate social responsibility.

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    Keeping America Safe with Joel Brenner

    Episode 7 | November 16, 2017 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Joel Brenner is a Senior Fellow at MIT. He served as head of U.S. Counterintelligence under the Director of National Intelligence and as Inspector General of the National Security Agency.

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    Rewriting the Rules with Mark Zaid

    Episode 6 | November 2, 2017 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Mark Zaid is the managing partner of The Law Offices of Mark Zaid. He is also the founder of the James Madison Project and one of the founders of Whistleblower Aid.

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    The Annual Review Conference Minisode with Caroline Krass

    Episode 5| October 20, 2017 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Caroline Krass of Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher, former General Counsel at the CIA, joined us for a short episode about the upcoming 27th Annual Review of the Field of National Security Law Conference. 

     

    Weaponizing the Dollar with Adam Smith

    Episode 4 | October 19, 2017 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Adam Smith is a partner at Gibson, Dunn & Crutcher. He served Senior Advisor to the Director of the U.S. Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) and served on the National Security Council.

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    Full Disclosure with Amy Jeffress 

    Episode 3 | October 5, 2017 (Subscribe |Stream)

    Amy Jeffress is a partner at Arnold & Porter. She served as the Justice Department Attache to the U.S. Embassy in London and held senior positions in the U.S. Justice Department.

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    The Summer of Sanctions with Brian Egan

    Episode 2 | September 21, 2017 (Subscribe |Stream)

    Brian Egan is a partner at Steptoe & Johnson. He served as the Legal Adviser to the State Department and held posts in the White House, the National Security Council and the Treasury Department

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    Private Practice and Public Service with Raj De

    Episode 1 | September 7, 2017 (Subscribe | Stream)

    Raj De is a partner at Mayer Brown. He served as the General Counsel of the National Security Agency and counsel to the 9/11 Commission, and has held senior appointments in the White House, the Department of Justice (DOJ) and the Department of Defense (DOD).

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