"Views from the bench" programs typically present frustrated judges beckoning lawyers to be brief in their briefs and, these days, to wear more than them when appearing in a "Zoom" hearing. Here we turn the tables a bit with a view of the bench with John Smietanka, the former United States Attorney for the Western District of Michigan in his 51st year of practicing law, discussing with Judge Richard Ginkowski how judges, by being good educators and mentors, can improve the practice of law and justice in their communities.