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September 28, 2020 Asked and Answered

How is the lawyer known as 'Popehat' on Twitter keeping busy during the pandemic?

By Stephanie Francis Ward

Legal news about President Donald Trump often outrages people, but it shouldn’t. And at the same time, his administration makes outrageous legal statements that many accept as normal, says Kenneth White, a former assistant U.S. attorney known as "Popehat" on Twitter.

Now a partner at Brown, White & Osborn in its Los Angeles office, White recently spoke with ABA Journal Senior Writer Stephanie Francis Ward as part of a special Asked and Answered podcast series, which looks at the way that lawyers’ lives have changed during the novel coronavirus pandemic.

White also hosts two podcasts, Legal Talk Network’s Make No Law and KCRW’s All the President’s Lawyers. He says his wife would like him to cut back on his Twitter time, but he has not.

And like many other lawyers, he’s dealing with online litigation, including virtual court appearances, hearing postponements and telephone depositions.

In This Podcast

Kenneth White

Kenneth White is a former assistant U.S. attorney and now a partner at Brown, White & Osborn in its Los Angeles office. He was a special counsel at Sheppard, Mullin, Richter & Hampton from 2003 to 2005 and an associate at Paul, Hastings, Janofsky & Walker from 2001 to 2003. White received his JD from the Harvard Law School in 1994.

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