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Artificial Intelligence – The New Frontier

A.I. – The New Frontier: Panel of Special Advisors for the ABA Task Force on Law and Artificial Intelligence” featuring Daniel Ho, member of the National AI Advisory Committee and William Benjamin Scott and Luna M. Scott Professor of Law at Stanford Law School and Associate Director of the Stanford Institute for Human-Centered Artificial Intelligence; Michelle Lee, CEO and founder of Obsidian Strategies and former undersecretary of commerce for intellectual property and director, U.S. Patent and Trademark Office; Trooper Sanders, member of the National AI Advisory Committee and CEO of Benefits Data Trust; Miriam Vogel, chair of the National AI Advisory Committee and President and CEO of EqualAI; and Seth Waxman, partner, WilmerHale and former U.S. solicitor general, interviewed by Lucy Thomson, Chair, ABA Task Force on Law and Artificial Intelligence.

Daniel E. Ho

Daniel E. Ho is the William Benjamin Scott and Luna M. Scott Professor of Law, Professor of Political Science, Professor of Computer Science (by courtesy), Senior Fellow at the Stanford Institute for Human-Centered Artificial Intelligence (HAI), Senior Fellow at the Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research, and Director of the Regulation, Evaluation, and Governance Lab (RegLab).

Ho serves on the National Artificial Intelligence Advisory Commission (NAIAC), advising the White House on AI policy, as Senior Advisor on Responsible AI at the U.S. Department of Labor, on the Committee on National Statistics (CNSTAT) of the National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine, as a Public Member of the Administrative Conference of the United States (ACUS), and as Special Advisor to the ABA Task Force on Law and Artificial Intelligence.

His scholarship focuses on administrative law, regulatory policy, and antidiscrimination law. With the RegLab, his work has developed high-impact demonstration projects of data science and machine learning in public policy, through partnerships with a range of government agencies, including the Internal Revenue Service, the Treasury Department, the Environmental Protection Agency, the Department of Labor, the Santa Clara County Public Health Department, and Seattle and King County Public Health. The collaboration with Santa Clara County was awarded the Innovative Practice Gold Award for “the highest level of program innovation” to serve “community during the COVID-19 pandemic” by the National Association of County and City Health Officials.

He received his J.D. from Yale Law School and Ph.D. from Harvard University and clerked for Judge Stephen F. Williams on the U.S. Court of Appeals, District of Columbia Circuit. He is the recipient of numerous awards, including the John Bingham Hurlbut Award for Excellence in Teaching at Stanford Law School, the Carole Hafner Award for the best paper at the International Conference on Artificial Intelligence and Law, the Best Empirical Paper Prize from the American Law and Economics Review, a Best Paper Award at the ACM Conference on Fairness, Accountability, and Transparency (FAccT), the Best Paper Award at the AAAI/ACM Conference on AI, Ethics, and Society (AIES), and the Warren Miller prize for the best paper published in Political Analysis.

Michelle Lee

Michelle Lee

Speaker -  Michelle K. Lee

The Honorable Michelle K. Lee is CEO of Obsidian Strategies, a firm that advises companies and boards on their most impactful AI strategies, a corporate board director, a presidentially-appointed special advisor to the American Bar Association’s Task Force on AI and the Law, and a frequent speaker on digital transformation.  She currently serves on the boards of MassMutual (a Fortune 100 company), Unity Technologies and the MIT Corporation.  She is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.

Previously, Ms. Lee was Vice President of AI at Amazon Web Services (AWS), where she led the Machine Learning Solutions Lab, a global team of business consultants and data scientists who helped companies identify and implement their highest-value machine learning opportunities, AWS’ computer vision business, and its responsible AI efforts.

Before that, Ms. Lee served as the Under Secretary of Commerce for Intellectual Property and Director of the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office.  In this role, Ms. Lee was the principal advisor to the President, through the Secretary of Commerce, on domestic and foreign intellectual property policy, and led one of the largest intellectual property offices in the world.  She is the first woman and the first Asian American to hold this position in our country’s history.

Ms. Lee held the Herman Phleger Visiting Professor of Law at Stanford Law School appointment from 2017-2018, served as Deputy General Counsel and Head of Patents and Patent Strategy at Google and was an intellectual property partner at Fenwick & West.

Ms. Lee received a B.S. and M.S. in electrical engineering and computer science from MIT, and a J.D. from Stanford Law School.  After law school, Ms. Lee clerked on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit and the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California.

Ms. Lee has testified multiple times before Congress on her various areas of expertise, and has received numerous awards in recognition of her professional accomplishments and public service including from the District of Columba Intellectual Property Bar Law Section, the National Asian Pacific American Bar Association, the National Law Journal, Law360, ChIPs and others.

Speaker - Trooper Sanders

Trooper Sanders is CEO of Benefits Data Trust, a national nonprofit that uses data, technology, policy change, and direct service to strengthen the nation’s social safety net to ensure everyone quickly and easily receives the critical assistance they are eligible for when they need it. Trooper brings over 20 years of experience working at the crossroads of business, government, and the nonprofit sector. Before joining BDT, Trooper was a Rockefeller Foundation fellow and worked on the social and economic implications of the global rise of artificial intelligence. For eight years, Trooper ran Wise Whisper, a strategic advisory practice to financial technology startups, philanthropic initiatives, and business leaders. He has also held White House policy staff positions during two administrations. In the nonprofit sector, he led the creation of ventures addressing issues such as the childhood obesity epidemic in the United States, the economic fallout of disasters, and the private sector's role in international development.

In addition to serving as a special advisor to the Task Force, Trooper is a member of the National Artificial Intelligence Advisory Committee, the national board of Girl Scouts of USA, the Military Family Research Institute's advisory board. He is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations. Trooper earned his bachelor’s from the University of Michigan and holds a Master of Science in Regulation from the London School of Economics, as well as a Master of Law from the University of London.

Miriam Vogel

Miriam Vogel

Speaker - Miriam Vogel

Miriam Vogel has extensive experience working with C-suite, board of directors and other key stakeholders to establish best practices for legal and regulatory compliance, as well as establishing responsible AI governance practices within Fortune 100 companies across multiple industry sectors. Miram is the President and CEO of EqualAI, a non-profit created to reduce bias and other harms in artificial intelligence (AI) and promote responsible AI governance. She also serves as Chair of the National AI Advisory Committee (NAIAC), mandated by Congress to advise the President and White House on AI policy. Miriam cohosts a podcast, In AI we Trust, with the World Economic Forum. Miriam has taught Technology Law and Policy at Georgetown University Law Center, where she currently serves as chair of the alumni board. Miriam also serves as a senior advisor to the Center for Democracy and Technology (CDT).

Miriam has served in a variety of leadership positions across the U.S. government. Most recently, she served as Associate Deputy Attorney General at the Department of Justice (DOJ), where she advised the Attorney General and the Deputy Attorney General (DAG) on a broad range of legal, policy and operational issues. Under the direction of DAG Sally Yates, Miriam led the creation and development of the Implicit Bias Training for Federal Law Enforcement. Miriam also spearheaded the DOJ’s Intellectual Property (IP) efforts to identify and dismantle IP theft domestically and internationally and worked with the DAG to manage DOJ divisions’ multibillion-dollar budgets, resolve high-level challenges, and represented DOJ in meetings with the White House, Congress and other officials on high level policy initiatives and oversight matters.   

Miriam served in the White House in two Administrations, including as the Acting Director of Justice and Regulatory Affairs. She led the President's Equal Pay Task Force to promote equality in the workplace. She also advised White House leadership on initiatives ranging from women, LGBT, economic, regulatory and food safety policy to criminal justice matters.

Miriam served as General Counsel to West Exec Advisors and Associate General Counsel at Dana-Farber Cancer Institute. Prior to that, she practiced entertainment/ corporate transactional law at Sheppard Mullin in Los Angeles, CA. Miriam began her legal career as a federal clerk in Denver, Colorado after graduating from Georgetown University Law Center and is a third generation alumna from the University of Michigan. 

Seth Waxman

Seth Waxman

Speaker - Seth P. Waxman

Solicitor General of the United States from 1997 to 2001, Seth Waxman is a partner at Wilmer Cutler Pickering Hale & Dorr and a member of the faculty at the Georgetown University Law Center.  A graduate of Harvard College and the Yale Law School, Mr. Waxman represents clients in civil and criminal litigation, at the trial and appellate stages, in both federal and state courts.  He has argued 87 cases in the United States Supreme Court and hundreds in state and lower federal courts.

Mr. Waxman is a Fellow of the American Academy of Arts and Sciences, the American College of Trial Lawyers, the American Academy of Appellate Attorneys, and he serves on the Council of the American Law Institute.  He writes and lectures on constitutional law and history, civil rights, intellectual property, and advocacy.  Mr. Waxman has received numerous awards for scholarship, public service, and advocacy, including the Thomas Jefferson Medal in Law, and the American Bar Association’s Pro Bono Publico award.  On account of extraordinary service to law enforcement, the Federal Bureau of Investigation has installed him as a permanent honorary Special Agent.

Lucy Thomson

Lucy Thomson

Moderator - Lucy L. Thomson

Lucy L. Thomson, CIPP/US, CISSP, is the founding principal of Livingston PLLC in Washington, D.C. where she focuses her practice on cybersecurity, global data privacy, and compliance and risk management. A career attorney at the U.S. Department of Justice, she managed and conducted complex litigation in the Criminal and Civil Rights Divisions. She subsequently worked as a senior principal engineer and privacy advocate at CSC, a global technology company. Appointed the Consumer Privacy Ombudsman (CPO) in 35 federal bankruptcy cases, she currently serves as the CPO in one of the largest cryptocurrency bankruptcies, Celsius Network (S.D. N.Y.).

Ms. Thomson is the chair of the ABA Task Force on Law and Artificial Intelligence (AI). Past chair of the ABA Science & Technology Law Section  (SciTech), she is a founding member of the Cybersecurity Legal Task Force and a member of the ABA House of Delegates (since 2004). She is the author of books/chapters on the security and privacy challenges of emerging technologies and critical infrastructure, including AI, the Internet of Things (IoT), bioinformatics and healthcare, and elections. She received a Master’s degree from Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute (RPI) and holds a J.D. degree from Georgetown. 

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